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ITP - 69: From TEFL to International Teacher in Thailand

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John Reed Stobbs shares his journey from Scotland to teaching in Thailand, starting with TEFL and transitioning into a fully qualified international teaching career. He breaks down how teachers can enter the field without an education degree and highlights the realities of life on Koh Samui. The conversation explores certification pathways, job fairs, and why international teaching opens doors most educators never realize exist.

Guest:
John Reed Stobbs
Topics:
international teaching, tefl, teacher certification, expat life, international schools
Countries Discussed
international teaching, tefl, teacher certification, expat life, international schools

Season:

3

Episode:

069

Full Transcript

Greg: Welcome back to the International Teacher Podcast. This is Greg, the single guy, and today I’ve got Jacqueline with me. How are you doing, Jacqueline?

Jacqueline: I’m doing great. I’m excited for this one.

Greg: Yeah, me too. We’ve got a really interesting guest today. Would you like to introduce her?

Jacqueline: Absolutely. So today we have someone I’ve known for quite a while, and I’m really excited to have her on. Welcome to the show.

John: Thank you so much. I’m really happy to be here.

Greg: So what we usually like to do is start with your story. Give us a bit of your background—where you’re from and how you ended up in international teaching.

John: Sure. So I’m originally from Canada, and I started my career teaching locally. I didn’t initially plan to go international, but I had friends who were doing it, and they kept telling me about their experiences.

At some point, I realized I wanted something different. I wanted to travel, see more of the world, and challenge myself professionally.

So I started looking into international schools, went to a job fair, and that’s how it all began.

Greg: That seems to be a common theme—someone plants the seed.

John: Exactly. Once the idea is there, it’s hard to ignore.

Jacqueline: Do you remember your first placement?

John: Yes, my first job was in the Middle East. It was a big adjustment at first, both culturally and professionally.

Greg: What was the biggest challenge during that transition?

John: I think it was a combination of things. Being far from family, adjusting to a new culture, and figuring out a new school system all at once.

But at the same time, it was exciting. Everything was new.

Greg: That first year is always a bit of survival mode.

John: Definitely. You’re just trying to keep your head above water.

Jacqueline: And then it usually gets better.

John: Yes, once you find your rhythm, it becomes much more enjoyable.

Greg: So after that first placement, what happened next?

John: After a couple of years, I started to feel more confident and began looking for new opportunities. I wanted to experience different regions and different types of schools.

That led me to my next position, which was in Asia.

Jacqueline: That’s quite a shift.

John: It was, but by then I was more prepared. I knew what to expect in terms of moving and adapting.

Greg: Did that second move feel easier?

John: In some ways, yes. I had a better understanding of how international schools work, and I knew how to handle the logistics.

But every place has its own challenges, so it wasn’t completely easy.

Greg: That’s the reality of this lifestyle.

John: Exactly. You get better at it, but it never becomes completely simple.

Greg: So after Asia, where did your journey take you next?

John: After Asia, I moved to Europe. That was another big shift, but in a different way. It felt more familiar culturally, but the school environment was very different.

Jacqueline: How so?

John: The expectations were different, the structure was different, and even the relationships with students and parents had a different tone. It took some adjustment.

Greg: That’s interesting because people often assume Europe would be the easiest transition.

John: In some ways it is, but professionally it can still be quite different depending on the school and country.

Jacqueline: And how long were you there?

John: I was there for about four years. It was a really important period for me professionally. I took on more responsibility and started to move into leadership roles.

Greg: Was that something you were aiming for?

John: Not initially, but over time I realized I enjoyed having a broader impact beyond just my classroom.

Greg: That’s usually how it starts.

John: Exactly. You try something, and then you realize you like it.

Jacqueline: And then what came after Europe?

John: After Europe, I moved again—this time to South America. That felt like a completely different experience again.

Greg: Back closer to home, in a way?

John: Yes and no. It was geographically closer to where I’m from, but culturally still very different from Canada.

Jacqueline: What stood out to you about that experience?

John: The community. It was a very tight-knit environment. People were very welcoming, and it was easy to build relationships.

Greg: That makes a huge difference.

John: It really does. It can completely change your experience in a place.

Jacqueline: So looking at all these moves—Middle East, Asia, Europe, South America—how do you decide when it’s time to move on?

John: That’s a tough question. For me, it’s usually a feeling. When I start to feel too comfortable or like I’ve learned what I can from a place, I start thinking about what’s next.

Greg: That’s very in line with what we hear from a lot of international teachers.

John: Yes, it’s a balance. You want stability, but you also want growth.

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