ITP - 066: From Corporate to International Teaching and Author Life
A. G. Allen shares an incredible career shift from 25 years in corporate America into international teaching and eventually becoming a children’s book author while living in Spain. She breaks down her journey from a teaching certification program to teaching in China for a decade, South Korea for several years, and finally settling in Mallorca. The conversation also explores her creative process behind her book “There Are Dinosaurs in the Library,” the realities of switching careers later in life, and how international teaching can open unexpected doors in retirement and creativity.
Guest:
A. G. Allen
Topics:
international teaching, career change, expat life, writing, international schools
Countries Discussed
international teaching, career change, expat life, writing, international schools
Season:
3
Episode:
066
Full Transcript
Greg:
Welcome to the International Teacher Podcast with your hosts Matt, Kent, Jacqueline, and Greg. We’re bringing you episodes from around the world about international teaching.
Greg:
Alright, welcome to the International Teacher Podcast. This is Greg.
Greg:
Today I’m really excited because my guest is joining us from Spain, Mallorca. She’s a teacher with a rich background in education, and she’s also a first-time author. One of my personal goals is to write a children’s book, so I’m especially looking forward to this conversation. Please welcome A. G. Allen. I don’t even know what AG stands for, but welcome to the show.
A.G. Allen:
Hi everyone.
Greg:
So AG, can you give us the elevator version of how you ended up in Spain and what led you there?
A.G. Allen:
Sure. I worked in corporate America for about 25 years. Around 2000 I started feeling a pull toward teaching, but I kept working. Then at a corporate job there was a school fair and one of the universities had a teaching program. I thought, “Okay, I’m going to do this.” I completed a two-year teaching program, earned my master’s in teaching, and decided I wanted an adventure overseas.
My first job was at an international school in China, where I stayed for about 10 years. After that, I moved to South Korea and taught at another international school for three years. As I got closer to retirement, I started thinking about where I wanted to end up, and Spain was on my list. I thought I’d do a few more years in the classroom, but only in Spain, so I could transition into retirement there. That’s how I ended up here.
Greg:
So you left corporate America after more than 20 years, went into teaching, got your master’s, and went straight to China. How did you land that China job?
A.G. Allen:
My cousin worked for the company and told me about the opportunity. I wasn’t really thinking about going to China, but I like applying for jobs and I enjoy interviews. I tend to apply thinking I probably won’t do it. But it came through, and I thought, “Okay, I’ll do it for two years.” Then I ended up staying for 10.
Greg:
That fits right into our theme because a lot of international schools have two-year contracts. So you went there, of all places, leaving the US and going to China. That’s a huge change. But you had a connection.
A.G. Allen:
Yes, but we weren’t in the same city. She was in Chengdu, which is where I ended up. The onboarding process was very strong. From the moment I arrived, I felt like I was part of something and settled in quickly.
Greg:
That onboarding must have helped a lot, especially staying 10 years. What were you teaching in China?
A.G. Allen:
I started in middle school as a language arts and English teacher—grades six, seven, and eight. Over time I moved into high school courses as well, mainly AP. I do miss middle school. Even recently I was helping younger students write proper emails instead of texting style messages.
Greg:
No 30 exclamation points.
A.G. Allen:
Exactly. You have to teach structure.
Greg:
After China, you went to South Korea. What school was that?
A.G. Allen:
An international school in a suburb of Seoul. I won’t name it—it just wasn’t the right fit for me, even though it was a good school.
Greg:
And that matters—the right fit.
A.G. Allen:
Exactly.
Greg:
Then Spain became the goal.
A.G. Allen:
Yes. Mallorca specifically. It was hard because I teach American curriculum and most schools prefer IB or British backgrounds. There are only a handful of American curriculum schools here. This school actually called me when they needed an English teacher. I was very happy to come. The weather, people, and students have all been great.
Greg:
Quick question about IB. Should teachers invest in it?
A.G. Allen:
If you want to teach in Europe, yes. It’s almost essential. But it’s expensive. I didn’t do it because I had just finished a master’s in creative writing and didn’t want to invest more. Priorities shift later in your career.
Greg:
Now your book.
A.G. Allen:
Yes.
Greg:
What’s it called?
A.G. Allen:
*There Are Dinosaurs in the Library!*
It came from a dream about six years ago. I was a child in a library and books opened while dinosaurs jumped out. I wrote it down but didn’t act on it until later during my master’s. It became my final project. I’ve read it many times and love it.
Greg:
Why third grade?
A.G. Allen:
I wanted younger kids who would be excited. It just felt right.
Greg:
It’s also dedicated to your daughter, Courtney.
A.G. Allen:
Yes. One of the most important things she ever told me was, “Make yourself happy.” That stayed with me.
Greg:
That’s powerful. I grew up with reading as a reward—if I read in bed, I could stay up longer. That helped me love books.
A.G. Allen:
That’s a great strategy.
Greg:
Your book really captures that idea—kids getting lost in stories at the library.
A.G. Allen:
That’s exactly the message.
Greg:
Do you keep a notebook by your bed?
A.G. Allen:
No, I just woke up and wrote it down because the dream was so vivid.
Greg:
How did you find your illustrator?
A.G. Allen:
Through Upwork. I had a clear vision—rich colors, expressive but not cartoonish. I chose an illustrator whose style matched perfectly. The expressions in the illustrations were very important to me.
Greg:
The librarian page is one of my favorites.
A.G. Allen:
Mine too.
Greg:
How did you choose character names?
A.G. Allen:
Some came fully formed—Melissa and Mrs. Barker. Others came from students or family.
Greg:
Do you use your book in class?
A.G. Allen:
Yes, to show creativity and possibility, and to talk about managing time while having personal projects. It also helps students see what’s possible.
Greg:
How much did you revise it?
A.G. Allen:
Very little. It stayed close to the original dream. Most changes were for illustration layout. It was more collaboration than rewriting.
Greg:
Do students respond well?
A.G. Allen:
Yes, very well.
Greg:
Favorite classroom books?
A.G. Allen:
*To Kill a Mockingbird*, *House on Mango Street*, and *Their Eyes Were Watching God*.
Greg:
Do you compare books and movies?
A.G. Allen:
Not usually. Movies are more for support, especially with language learners.
Greg:
Do students read more because of you?
A.G. Allen:
I hope so, but they prefer short digital content.
Greg:
Best book you assign?
A.G. Allen:
*To Kill a Mockingbird*.
Greg:
Travel story?
A.G. Allen:
In China I was always randomly searched at airports. One time my scooter was stolen outside a bank while I was withdrawing money. I ran out yelling “scooter!” Police helped me file a report and even took me to buy a new one.
Greg:
Essentials abroad?
A.G. Allen:
Transportation, a housekeeper, and internet. Those things make life manageable.
Greg:
Final advice?
A.G. Allen:
Be open to culture, lean in, say yes, and build community.
Greg:
Where can people find you?
A.G. Allen:
agallen.me and [agallened@outlook.com](mailto:agallened@outlook.com)
Greg:
We’ll link that in the show notes. Thank you for joining us—and go get *There Are Dinosaurs in the Library!*
A.G. Allen:
Thank you for having me.